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May 18, 2024 17:06:14   #
User ID wrote:
All the photo industry consumer rags were congenitally worshipful of journalists. Such journalists were depicted as toting Leicas with 35 and 90, or even two Leicas with both FLs already mounted. 35, not 50. Your question makes comparison with 50 and begs for a rationale for the 85, and I agree. I would not bother carryibg both 50 and 85. OTOH, swap in a 40 instead of that 50 and then I want my 85 or 90 !

Another reason I like my 18-200.......
Has all the numbers in-between.
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May 18, 2024 16:29:17   #
User ID wrote:
I believe that I know. 85 is the journalists portrait grabber. Their "normal" may be a 35 so that 85 is quite a step up (vs when your normal is a 50). 85 is short and fast enuf for quick reportage style handheld "portraits", even in crappy light.

85mm is acoarst a Nikon FL. With Leica its 90. Note that I called it a "portrait grabber". Its not really a studio lens ... and anywho studio cameras are generally bigger. 85 and 90mm decend from rangfinder 35mm film kits. With RFs, the mechanical accuracy limited 105 and 135 lenses to slower max apperture, so 85 and 90 could be about a full stop faster than those longer lenses.

Thaz the story in broad strokes. Broad strokes !! I now step aside so as to not get trampled by a herd of nit pickers.
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Well, I'm not a journalist, so I wouldn't know.
A step up from what (don't say 50), explain the difference in attributes.

Any idea when/who started the trend?
Is a skosh of telephoto compression better that using a 50?

Everyone says it IS a portrait lens, has anyone said WHY?
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May 18, 2024 16:22:08   #
Nice set.
Love two and three.
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May 18, 2024 16:07:04   #
User ID wrote:
Always gotta wonder what Hawgsters actually mean when they say "portrait", altho all their parroting of "85, 85, portrait lens, 85, 85 ... " is a bit of a hint.

The function of an 85, relative to 50 and 35mm "normals" is to get a very slight shift toward longer lens perpective while not much demanding the usual long lens attention to increased steadiness and shutter speed.

Part of this is due to 85 being short enuf to share the lens speed typical of "normal" lenses while remaining fairly compact. A 105 f:1.8 is already a heavy bulky clunker, but an 85 f:2.0 looks like a 50 f:2 that grew a 1/2 inch longer.
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An "accepted standard?" for doing portraiture...
I wonder who started the trend.
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May 18, 2024 15:22:13   #
gouldopfl wrote:
There have also been myths that EV's catch fire easily. There have been 282 fires since 2010. Gas fires are close to 2000 a year.

Not easily, no one said easily, often is more appropriate. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Sorry, I don't want to be 1 of the 282, in my garage.

Anyone have a gas engine spontaneously combust?
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May 18, 2024 12:45:28   #
Thought you were going to say "served"....
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May 18, 2024 12:44:24   #
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May 18, 2024 12:40:47   #
MY thoughts: the zoom covers it, save the "low light" ability of the dedicated 85.
For my shooting I don't need the low light ability.
That's why my 18-200 lives on my camera.
(I also have an 25, 35, 50, 75, 100, 125, 150, 175, ..... in the zoom.)

It depends on your requirements and desires.
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May 18, 2024 12:37:34   #
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, more "flavored water" should be allowed once you pay higher-than-expected prices for so-so food.

But if you take the lettuce and tomato away in the second picture, they both look basically the same........
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May 18, 2024 12:28:21   #
Desert Gecko wrote:
Great propaganda, Jerry. Non-representative examples and a one-sided argument, but that's how propaganda works.
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So I suppose anti-propaganda would be "Here's a new kind of battery. Don't worry about how it's made or any side effects, just use it."

And you noticed, of course, that the low power devices rarely have "ignition" problems..... High power devices are more prone.
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May 18, 2024 12:21:49   #
fourlocks wrote:
I’ll pay $16 for a home cooked, medium rare 1” thick burger with fresh lettuce, onion, tomato and fries like my local Mom & Pop restaurant offers. I just saw a photo of the meat patty in McDonald’s new $5.00 meal and it’s so thin you could literally, literally see through it.

I had a friend who would actually say "And make it look like the picture." when he ordered at BK or McD's.
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May 18, 2024 10:20:45   #
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May 18, 2024 10:14:17   #
And people didn't think that would result from the "burger assembler" now getting $15+/hour.
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May 18, 2024 10:10:14   #
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes! I've seen that comment in a TV comedy. The woman said she liked the cup holder in her new computer. "I just push the button, and the cup holder slides out!"

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May 18, 2024 08:55:48   #
Experiment in cause-and-effect........
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